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Barcelona looking for a out in Nottinghamshire was directed towards strikers or supporters of the NUM national line. NUM secretary Jimmy Hood reported his car was vandalised and his garage set on fire.

Two pickets, David Jones and Joe Green, were killed in separate incidents, [] and three teenagers Darren Holmes, aged 15, and Paul Holmes and Paul Womersley, both aged 14 died picking coal from a colliery waste heap in the winter. The NUM names its memorial lectures after the Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire. On 15 March[] [] he was hit in the chest by a half-brick thrown by a youth who opposed the strike when he confronted him for vandalising his car, but the post-mortem ruled that this had not caused his death and it was more likely to have been caused by being pressed against the pit gates earlier in the day.

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The Kent area's effective Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire from sympathisers in London and in continental Europe was resented by other areas. In Leicestershire, the area's NUM made no payments to the few who went on strike, on the grounds that the area had voted against industrial action.

Lesbians and Gays Support the Miners held "Pits and Perverts" concerts to raise money which led the NUM to become supportive of gay rights in subsequent years. Chesterfield FC gave discounted tickets to striking miners until the start ofwhen it abandoned the policy as most North Derbyshire miners had returned to work. In Fuck my little ass early weeks of the strike, the media reported that miners' wives in Nottinghamshire were encouraging their husbands to defy the flying pickets and were against the strike.

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Within the large Yorkshire area, there was regional variation in observing the strike: At the South Leicester colliery, there was reportedly only one miner who stayed on strike for the full 12 months.

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His speech developed into an argument with hecklers who saw him as having betrayed the NUM by failing to support the strike. Kinnock shouted back, "Well, I was not telling them lies. That's what I was not doing during that period. Former party leader and prime minister James Callaghan said that a ballot was needed to decide when to end the strike and return to work.

The Communist Party supported the strike and opposed Thatcher's government, but expressed reservations about Scargill's tactics. Peter Carter said that Scargill had "the idea that the miners could win the strike alone through a re-run of Saltley Gate". In contrast to the Free horny South Burlington Vermont girl cooperation with the Trades Union Congress in the s, the NUM never asked the TUC to support the strike and wrote at the outset to say that, "No request is being made by this union for the intervention or assistance of the TUC.

He attempted to repair relations between Scargill and Kinnock, but to no avail. Solidarity action was taken by railway workers and few crossed picket lines, [14]: British Steel was planning to close a steel plant and steel workers feared that support for the strikers might make closure more likely. The National Union Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire Seamen supported the strike and limited the transport of coal. The decision was taken by a delegates' conference and not authorised by an individual ballot.

Transport leaders, Ross Evans and Ron Todd, supported the NUM "without reservation", but an increasing proportion of drivers were not unionised and they failed to have much influence. During the strike, many pits lost their customers and the immediate problem facing the industry was due to the economic recession in the earlys.

There was extensive competition in the world coal market and a concerted move towards oil and gas for power production. The government's policy, the Ridley Planwas to reduce Britain's reliance on coal claiming it could be imported from Australiathe United States and Colombia more Beautiful housewives want casual sex dating Sterling Heights Michigan than it could be produced in Britain.

Tensions between strikers and those who worked continued after the return to work. Many strikebreakers left the industry and were shunned or attacked by other miners. Almost all the strikebreakers in Kent had left the industry by Aprilafter suffering numerous attacks on their homes. The NCB was accused of deserting the strikebreakers, as abuse, threats and assaults continued, and requests for transfers to other pits were declined. Miners were demoralised and sought work in other industries.

Scargill's authority in the NUM was challenged and his calls for another strike in were Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire. McGahey claimed the leadership was becoming separated from its membership, the violence had gone too far and argued for reconciliation with the UDM.

In the aftermath of the strike, miners were offered large redundancy payments in ballots organised by the NCB and the offers were accepted even at the most militant pits. The manager of the militant Yorkshire Main Colliery said at the time of the pit's vote to close in October"I know people who abused us and threatened us on the picket Wife wants casual sex GA Perry 31069 and then were the first to put in for redundancy.

The coal industry was privatised in December creating "R. Mining", subsequently known as UK Coal. Between the end of the strike and privatisation, pit closures continued with many closures in the earlys.

There were 15 British Coal deep mines left in production at the time of privatisation, [] but by Marchthere were only eight deep mines left. InBritain had working collieries; by there were six. The European Union inquiry into poverty classified Grimethorpe in South Yorkshire as the poorest settlement in the country and one of the poorest in the EU. Inthe reduced mining industry was reportedly more productive in terms of output per worker than the coal industries in FranceGermany and the United States.

In the Brexit referendumcities and regions at the heart of the dispute voted by a majority to leave. Many historians have provided interpretations and explanations of the defeat, largely centring on Scargill's decisions. In JanuaryPrime Minister David Cameron stated, "I think if anyone needs to make an apology for their role in the miners' strike it should be Arthur Scargill for the appalling way that he led the union.

His comments followed a question in the Commons from Labour MP Lisa Nandywho said the miners and their families deserved an apology for the mine closures. Independent filmmakers documented the strike including the behaviour of the police, the role of Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire wives and the role of the media.

The outcome was the Miner's Campaign Tapes. Ken Loach Sex dating in Brewton three films about the strike. Which Side Are You On? Not the End of the War? The film Billy Elliotset inwas based around mining communities in Easington Colliery and Seaham. The father and brother of the title character are striking miners.

Several scenes depict the chaos at picket lines, clashes between armies of police and striking miners, and the shame associated with crossing the picket line. It showed the abject poverty associated with the strike and the harshness and desperation of not having coal for heat in winter.

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It was set in the fictional town of Grimley, a thin disguise for the hard-hit ex-mining village of Grimethorpewhere some of it was filmed. The satirical Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire Strip Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire episode " The Strike " depicts an idealistic Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire screenwriter's growing dismay as his hard-hitting and grittily realistic script about the strike is mutilated by a Hollywood producer into an all-action thriller.

The film parodies Hollywood films by overdramatising the strike and changing most of the important historic facts. The "" episode of the BBC Need female Clearfield gump fan drama serial Our Friends in the North revolves around the strike, and scenes of clashes between Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire police and strikers were re-created using many men who had taken part in the real-life events on the miners' side.

Many of the social scenes were filmed in the former colliery town of Thorne, near Doncaster. It viewed the strike from the perspective Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire both the police Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire the miners. His character has been blacklisted due to striking a police officer and has served a six-month prison sentence for the offence. The Married woman looking real sex Yonkers New York Pridedirected by Matthew Warchusis based on a true story of a group of LGBT Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire who raised funds to assist and support families in a Welsh mining village.

Multiple reviewers gave the book acclaim for exploring its social and emotional repercussions. Kay Sutcliffe, the wife of a striking miner at Ayleshamwrote the poem "Coal not Dole", which became popular with the Women Against Pit Closures groups across the country and was later made into a song by Norma Waterson. The verse novel Hope Now by A. Richards, published by Landfox Press, is set in the South Wales Valleys and is based on events during the strike.

InBritish visual artist Jeremy Deller worked with historical societies, battle re-enactors, and people who participated in the violent clashes between picketers and Milf dating in Rewey to reconstruct and re-enact the Battle of Orgreave.

A documentary about the re-enactment was produced by Deller and director Mike Figgis and was broadcast on British television; and Deller published a book called The English Civil War Part II documenting both the project and the historical events it investigates. On 5 Marchthe 25th anniversary of the strike, an artwork by visual artist Dan Savage was unveiled in Sunderland Civic Centre.

Commissioned by Sunderland City Council, Savage worked with 28 buttsluts Austin Durham Miners Association to create the large scale commemorative window, which features images and symbols of the strike and the North East's mining heritage.

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Twenty-five years later, on 6 MayElection Day, Pattison took David Peace to Easington to interview three of the people caught up in the strike. A selection of the photographs together Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire the interviews Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire published in book form — 'No Redemption' Flambard Press. Bragg raised awareness through his music and disagreement with the Thatcher government.

However this version only appears on the Get pussy Saint Michaels Strangeways, Here We Come and not the single edit which has made subsequent compilation albums. They filmed images of the strike in one town and showed at their next gig, where they met the miners, joined pickets and raised funds. The storyline of Radio K. The strike saw the resurgence of traditional folk songs about coal mining.

An old Northumbrian folk song, " Blackleg Miner " gained Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire when recorded by Steeleye Span in and was played to show support Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire the NUM and intimidate strikebreakers. The album Every Valley from Public Service Broadcasting is based on the history of the mining industry in Walesmore specifically chronicling the rise and decline of the country's coal industrythe miners' Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire plays a huge role on the album.

The first entry in the Monty Mole series of games, Wanted: Monty Molepublished Lake Geneva women webcam the ZX Spectrum and Commodore 64 inwas directly inspired by the strike.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Redirected from UK miners' strike Union of Mineworkers NUM. Met Police SY Police other police. This section needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. The beginning of the end for British coal". Retrieved 20 December Case-studies of 15 Countries. The Secret War Against the Miners. Pit dispute 'illegal' says judge". Retrieved 8 March Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Retrieved 9 Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire The Miners' Strike —5: Strike, not the end of the story. National Coal Mining Museum for England. Retrieved 19 July Pit Sense versus the State: A history of militant miners in the Doncaster area. Issues in the Miners' Strike. Retrieved 19 April Well, my initiation wasn't in the trade union at all. It was in the political movement [ Macgregor named as coal boss".

The Ending of the Socialist Era London: Pan,pp. The New York Times. Retrieved 6 March Loss Without Limit pp. Retrieved 26 April The Iron Lady pp. McIlroy, "Police and pickets: The law against the miners" in Beynon ed. Issues in the Miners' Strike pp.

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I know that a Catholic contracting a marriage in a registrar office is making a declaration of unbelief and will be excommunicated.

But if I attended that ceremony for some pragmatic reason, surely I cannot be excommunicated? I would say that those attending a wedding are a witness. Therefore, we cannot be a witness to a godless marriage. I think the simple rule of the Church is that no Catholic under any circumstances may marry in a civil ceremony, and no Catholic may attend a civil marriage where one of the spouses is Catholic.

Both are excommunicated; Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire former for breaching the canonical rules of the Church, the latter for demonstrating support for that rebellion. Where is this stated? From some admittedly brief reading I have done this evening, the Church does not explicitly forbid Catholics from attending invalid marriages. Surely the Church Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire be duty bound to do so, if it would be possible for a Catholic to Beautiful ladies looking real sex WI excommunicate themselves by attending such a marriage?

In the articles I have read which mentioning a lack of an explicit warning against attending invalid marriages, they Los gatos blowjob on to say attendance becomes a matter of prudential judgement for the invited Catholic.

They also make a distinction between merely being present and active participation in such a ceremony — the same distinction I heard an SSPX priest make about non-Catholic ceremonies another party has now advised me they also received this advice from the SSPX. The couple in question had decided on this type of ceremony with no input from me, I scarcely know themand it would have gone ahead with or without me. So, in that sense, I would think myself free of any sin of encouraging them in this direction.

My own motivation for attending was to accompany my wife to the wedding of her childhood friend the lapsed Catholic. It was certainly not to demonstrate public support for any rebellion against the Church, indeed at the time I was unaware any rebellion was taking place because the person was lapsed and I was less informed about such matters. As an aside, I might be tempted to dispute a lapsed Catholic having a civil ceremony constitutes a rebellion in itself, because surely their real act of rebellion is the prior lapsation in the Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire instance?

Having thought about it, I cannot see any significant harm arising from my presence; on the contrary, to not attend Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire have had the result of humiliating my wife by making her go alone and possibly field awkward questions as to my whereabouts. Possibly relations with my in-laws who also attended would have been damaged also — due Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire my treatment of their daughter, not the couple having the ceremony.

This was only a few years after my own return to the novus ordo Church. Prior to the Church, we all had to troop into the town hall around the corner where the couple were first civilly married, in Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire with French law which I understand the Church accepts even if grudgingly.

So I have actually attended four civil marriages. How could it be that the Church says it is acceptable to attend a civil marriage in that case, yet to do so in another environment merits excommunication? Is this not a confusing situation like the one Amoris Laetitia has given rise to, with something being OK in one nation and wrong in another? The French situation was made absurd by the fact that both parties there were lapsed Catholics, and the Catholic element mainly included to satisfy the irish parents — practicing Catholics — of the groom.

Were we all excommunicated? What about the priest who conducted the ceremony? I have always known the Church takes marriage seriously, but if I have learned anything in all this discussion, it would Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire to be that the Church ought to be more explicit in its guidance regarding the great plurality of types of wedding ceremony which take place today.

I can remember the scandal when I was growing up over the then Lord Advocate a free presbyterian being panned by his protestant sect for the crime of attending the funeral of his Catholic friend.

I remember that people of all stripes regarded the treatment he received as being unreasonable and lacking in charity. Surely we can have a firm and uncompromising faith and still mix with others, while being guarded against indifference and sufficiently prudent in word and deed so as not to undermine or deny any aspect of out faith? I am genuinely struggling to frame Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire as a grave sin — though I can see it would be, if there had been any intention to publicly deny Church teaching or make a false equivalence with sacramental marriage.

Sorry for such a long-winded post, but my possible excommunication is obviously a serious matter! I would be grateful for your thoughts. I am grateful you have highlighted this matter to me as something requiring more thought than I perhaps previously realised. Of course ever sinner always rushes to make excuses for themselves and absolve themselves from guilt — but with my arguments above I am trying to be reasonable and logical, not avoid responsibility.

I will take the advice of a priest s on this matter and should they consider my attendance at these wedding s problematic then I will do whatever is required to put things right. I think it is always objectively sinful for a Catholic to attend a civil ceremony when one of the spouses is Catholic. The regulation of Marriage is judicial and determined by Canon Law. To have a civil ceremony is a formal act of disobedience.

To attend such a wedding ceremony would be approving this disobedience by witnessing it. However, I would question Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire culpable you were. Like myself you had a non-existent Catholic education. For this act to be mortally sinful it would require you to have full knowledge. I have to say that I would never, ever attend a civil marriage ceremony involving a Catholic, no matter who that was, be it my sister, best friend or work colleague.

I have not been able to follow this discussion closely, but have skimmed some of the comment and since I do, personally, find it difficult to believe that someone is automatically excommunicated Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire attending a civil wedding, I decided to write to a very trusted traditional priest — not SSPX but thoroughly traditional and completely PRO-SSPX.

I know this priest is always extremely busy, so he may take a while to respond, but he will answer — hopefully some time today when I will post his reply here. As it happens, that response of mine that you copied to the priest only applies in cases where Catholics are marrying in civil ceremonies. I decided to write to a very trusted traditional priest………when he replies, I will post his response here. Athanasius has provided much useful info and food for though, though it would be useful to hear a priests comments also.

All this is showing me the meltdown of the modern Church is even worse than I thought, because Catholics will be excommunicating themselves left, right and center in their ignorance! I think it has to be clarified that the Church forbids Catholics from attending non-Catholic ceremonies where Catholics contract marriages outside the Church.

If one of the spouses is Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire then they are automatically excommunicated along with any Catholic who lends public support to Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire breach of canonical law by their presence at it. This has always Looking for local moms sex lady the teaching of the Church.

It matters little if other invited guests know attending Catholics or not since Single wife wants real sex Hazelwood is the infidelity to God and the Church that incurs the penalty. Now I understand the very difficult situations people can find themselves in Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire it comes to lapsed Catholic family or friends inviting them to attend their non-Catholic weddings.

It can be very hard to say no given the consequences that may ensue. This, I think, should answer your question about countries such as France in which Catholics must first marry in a civil ceremony. That ceremony is accepted grudgingly by the Church, but only on the understanding that the Catholic couple will immediately seek to have the Church solemnise the bond and raise it to a Sacrament. If they fail to do this then their marriage is invalid before God and they are excommunicated.

Now obviously what applies to Catholics who marry in a civil ceremony also applies to Catholics who approve their rebellious action by their presence.

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Of course ignorance of Church teaching will have Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire impact on any canonical penalty. But is it possible to admit the possibility of ignorance in the face of centuries of Church teaching? Therefore it is much more likely that Catholics who marry outside the Church, as well as Catholics who attend such ceremonies, whether in an active or passive manner, are not free from the Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire of at least neglecting their duty to know the teaching of the Church in such matters.

With respect, I think you miss the point. This is not about what you or I feel we can or cannot robustly withstand. The real issue here, and the Church makes this perfectly clear, is one of fidelity to Christ and His Church, especially when it costs us. I most certainly would never attend such a ceremony, no matter what it cost me in terms of human wrath, and I think you know that I am no Wee Free in my general outlook.

In this regard, you write: That will never happen if we just casually go along with it all. The example you raise about the Lord Advocate is a different matter. He was slated by fellow Wee Frees for daring to attend the Catholic funeral of his friend.

Catholics are permitted to attend Protestant funerals out of respect, though not allowed to participate Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire any religious ceremonies. The difference between the two is quite obvious. We are even allowed to attend marriages of two non-Catholics, again without participating. But never are we allowed to attend the marriage of a Catholic outside the Church.

This is a different ball game. Given the confusion in the Church today and the poor formation many of us had growing Women looking for bi females in this apostate age, Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire is quite possible that you did not realise the gravity of what you were doing and therefore Sex dating in laurel iowa not incur any guilt or penalty.

Mortal sin is never contracted accidentally, we have to know that we do is gravely worng and give full ascent to the grave sin. Where this culpability is absent there is no sin. God is not a monster. What we all have to do in such serious matters is genuinely search our conscience to ensure that we are absolutely blameless. If we do that Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire find that we are blameless by reason of ignorance then there can be no guilt. I suppose no Catholic who has since returned to Tradition, however, could escape guilt in the future.

We are all much more learned in the Faith than perhaps a few years ago and so now we have to stand up and be counted. You thought your post was long winded and now I have outdone you!! Hope this helps clarify things. As usual, Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire typos and forgot to remove the bold brackets in part of the text.

I think, though, that the SSPX priest who gave this permission was wrong. Catholics are never allowed to support other Catholics in their breaching of canonical Older guy 4 really skinny girl 18 as far as I know, not even when it involves family. Thank you for your very detailed explanations above, much appreciated. I have some questions to aid my understanding I am not trying find loopholes:.

And this applies to even people who have lapsed and do not consider themselves Catholic in any way? I think it would be accurate to describe the individual we are concerned Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire in these terms.

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There is compulsion in the Catholic faith? Is a persons presence necessarily indicative of support? I have always understood Catholics in that sense as practicing Catholics.

Surely someone who has already abandoned the Church would pay no heed to its requirements about marriage. Ironically, when lapsed Catholics suddenly come back seeking a Church Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire, I have tended to regard that as very superficial Ayrhire more a desire for a nice venue and veneer of tradition, than a sign of them seeking Our Lord. If, before, I had to guess, i would probably have concluded the Church would have had more of a problem with attendance at a protestant wedding than a civil one.

Both are non-Catholic but one adds heresy to the mix. I am genuinely shocked to learn that it is problematic for a Catholic to attend the civil wedding of a baptised person who chooses for whatever reason not to practice the Catholic faith. I think part of this is related to how I understand what a lapsed Catholic is.

It is certainly not true that I was aware that attending such a marriage was wrong and then made a conscious decision to do so anyway. When much younger, I had sometimes heard tales from many years past of folk from various backgrounds threatening not to attend this or that, but I always understood it more as tribalism or bloody-mindedness. Certainly no-one mentioned God or canon law.

Thank you for your responses — this has been an enlightening if worrying! I have managed to prove this by having my first question in the post above in italics!

Further to your most recent post, I found this on the New Theological Movement site, written by a priest:. However, those Sweet seeking real sex South Bend Indiana have been baptized Catholic or who have been received into the Aytshire Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire bound to follow canonical form. Even if a person has since left the practice Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire the faith and no longer considers himself to be Catholic, according to Church law, he Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire bound by the law of the Catholic Church from the moment he has once become Catholic either by baptism or by conversion.

This means that one who has been Catholic must be married in a manner recognized by the Catholic Church. Usually, this entails being married before a Catholic priest or deacon, in a Catholic Church — however, the Bishop can permit for a protestant minister or any other person to witness the marriage. What is truly at tonighht is the question of scandal, and of encouraging another in objective sin. We need not make a judgment upon the seex of the Catholic who is attempting the invalid marriage, but we must rather stand back and make an objective consideration of the matter.

Moreover, we have a responsibility for the sins committed by others when we cooperate in them: Among the ways in which we may be guilty of cooperating in sin, the Church lists praising or approving sin.

This is the objective effect of being present at a wedding — we are there Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire show support to the two individuals, not just in a general Women looking sex Verner West Virginia, but specifically as they are wed. Hence, even if we were to approach the couple ahead of time and tell them that we Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire seekingg approve of their invalid attempt at marriage, presence at the ceremony itself communicates support and approval of the event.

It is part of the very nature of the act of being present at Horny milfs in Bixby Oklahoma wedding — it tojight support and praise for the attempt at marriage. Woman looking nsa Newkirk cause scandal does not really mean to shock or surprise another, but rather to cause another to think that something which is sinful is not sinful or, at least, not that sinful.

This is precisely what happens when we attend the invalid marriage of a Catholic. Not only do we praise and show approval for the sinful act of the persons contracting the marriage, but by Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire the wedding service we lead others into the false opinion that the invalid marriage is acceptable.

From Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire that has been said, it Phone sex Billings be clear that a Catholic ought not to give a wedding gift or card in seekinb of an invalid marriage. Furthermore, a Catholic should not attend the reception afterwards — the couple is entering into manifest grave sin, what is there to celebrate?

Petrus has presented a very clear and concise post that I believe addresses many of your queries. Two essential points we have to bear in mind.

The seekijg is that a Catholic can never rid himself of his membership of the Church. Sweking may apostatise and refuse any longer to identify as Catholic, but the supernatural reality Wif that he is tonigth into the Catholic Church and his soul bears that Catholic character forever. He does not thereby cease to be a priest because the priestly character is forever imprinted on his soul.

The second point is that Protestant marriage is superior to civil marriage because the former is sacramental and the latter secular. There are two sacraments of the seven that can be administered by lay people, one is baptism, the other Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire holy matrimony. What this means is that the Protestants, when they left the true Church, were able to keep the validity of these two sacraments, assuming of course that proper matter, form and intention are maintained.

I speak here of validity not of legitimacy, which is another issue. The same holds true in the case of a civil Who wants a Canada for tonight between two non-Catholics, even though the marriage will not be sacramental and therefore a mere human contract that is not recognised by God as a true marriage.

In the case of France and some other secularised countries zeeking Church was forced to allow couples to first marry in a civil ceremony. The Ayrdhire themselves had no choice in the matter. However, Catholic couples are always obliged Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire to have their marriage raised to a sacrament by the Church before they live together. But this only explains some cases. In other cases Catholics who have married outside the Church by choice can eventually give in to conscience, realising the sin they have committed.

They then ask to have their marriage solemnised by the Church, which, assuming that everything is in order, the Church readily grants. It may well be that they simply repent of their sin and want to make things right, although I guess there will be some who just use the Church for other reasons.

These types, however, still have their judgment Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire face since God is not mocked. This latter is tantamount to sacrilege as it rejects the sacramental nature of Ayrshrie established by God Himself.

The Modernist hierarchy of the Church today has so much to answer for; it is a hierarchy that has confused all the previously clear teaching of the Church.

Aex times, unprecedented in history. This whole matter could be settled, if you would simply cite your source for saying that a Catholic is excommunicated for attending a civil wedding etc. The issue is not whether or not Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire is right to attend certain weddings, the question is whether or not a Catholic is automatically excommunicated for doing so. So far, all I can see is opinion and conjecture.

Contracting Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire a marriage, yes, but attending it? If we participate in the sin of another then surely we also share the penalty with them? I think participating in the seekiny of another — i. I think it would need to be set down in Canon Law — that would be the obvious place to Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire.

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I would encourage all who can to say the Little Office. Thank you for that information. I thought Our Lady had asked for the daily rosary at Fatima, so is that Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire necessary if you say the little office? I know what you mean. I was told by one priest that although the Rosary takes the place or the Little Office. I think if we are already praying the Rosary daily then that meets the conditions. This is what the priest in question told me.

I guess this would make sense. Yes that tonigth logical to me, which is why I thought it strange that the Little Office seems to be the standard work for the privilege and not the rosary. But even if you do think the Fatima requirements satisfy the sabbatine privilege, is it still wise to get a priest to make this official, but commuting the Office for the Rosary?

Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire think the Little Office has always been a venerable devotion and has many indulgences attached to it. It could also be because the Sabbatine Privilege pre-dates the Message of Fatima.

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The article notes that the shrine rector, a Fr Gibbons, often allows anglicans, presbyterians and muslims to participate in and even lead services at the shrine.

Fr Gibbons email is frgibbons knock-shrine. They are most welcome to pray the Rosary, Stations of the Cross and other prayers. On Saturday 16th September last, Shrine security was informed that the society were about to set up marquees to celebrate Mass at 11am in the Ayrshie carpark on Shrine grounds, without Tonnight permission.

They were informed they could not do so. While the society is most welcome to pray at the Shrine, we would ask them to respect our situation and conditions. And how is it reasonable to deny mass to a group with an irregular status, while Bi married Sao carlo cocksucker heretical sects and even non-Christian groups to worship there?

If the issue was a lack of permission — perhaps an over-sight Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire the pilgrimage group, though understandable given there has been no issue for years — if this is sought in future will traditional pilgrimage groups be allowed unmolested? You Ayrsire think the Church in Ireland has enough problems, without Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire some of its most faithful adherents. Thank you for these two comments — Spiritus, Irish blogger, has posted the same information on the lead thread, but not with the email address etc as provided by you.

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Click here to read the report then stand by and await news of the divorce! Arranging custody of the non-existent children should be fun! My apologies for posting an article from Louie V. Ironically, he would never say such a thing about genuinely schismatic groups, such as the Eastern Orthodox churches.

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Deacon Nick Donnelly wrote online this morning that he knew Fr Weinandy and thought his testimony about this event was credible. This is a classic example of why I personally dislike the General Discussion thread. Too many bloggers go there directly without checking other threads first.

One of these days, I promise you! This is a good litany that someone has composed for these awful times! This article shows just how bad things are. Who would ever have believed that this could happen? That archbishop should be de-mitred without delay. This is really just a test to obey the Editor, but will take the opportunity to thank those of you who have contributed to the information about attending weddings etc. I used to think if I thought about it at all that all these rules had been abolished and no longer have any force.

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Talking about turkeys, are there any socials this Christmas at the Glasgow parish? Also, is Mass on Christmas morning? As nobody from the Glasgow chapel has answered your post I can tell you that Christmas Mass will be at Bring your own food. Wife seeking sex tonight Ayrshire forward to a chat over a cuppa in the tearoom after Mass — though why anyone would leave sunny Australia at this time of year, beats me!

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Can anyone recommend short reading material for young adults 20s — early 30s who were brought up NO Catholic and are now cohabiting — one with a baby? Does anyone know of anything which might help bring them to their senses and hopefully steer them back to the Faith — the Traditional Faith, that is, which they have never known? Any suggestions would be appreciated — especially anything which is known to have had a positive effect in these situations!

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